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futoshi
09-12-2008, 10:18 PM
1. Character Name:Futoshi
2. Class/Race/Professions:Paladin/Belf/JC/Ench
3. Wowhead link to normal raiding spec( http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=L ):http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sxZxGZxf0thcuiIot
4. Armory Page:http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Gurubashi&n=Futoshi the weapon i use is the s4 2h sword. gotta log with the ashbringer yaknow
5. Experience: Please specify if in a leadership role.
Sunwell:up to muru attempts
Hyjal:cleared
BT:cleared
6. Screen shot of your UI:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v633/superleetnoob/WoWScrnShot_071408_234858.jpg
7. Link to your guild's WWS:not up anymore =/ the guy that did it transferred a long while ago
8. Can you make all of our raid times?:yea
9. Previous Guild(s) and why you left:Notorious/It died
10. Friends / Relatives / References that are Exodus Members:
11. Any other information you would like to include, about yourself, such as age, where you live, etc, and about your character and/or why you think Exodus would be a good fit:I dunno if you remember me lol i talked with u guys a little bit ago when you needed a holy paladin but I couldn't just leave my old guild behind. I have experience in both ret and holy its just my ret gear is bt only but nothing the sunwell t6 wouldnt fix
12. Connection and computer specs that you use to play:cable one/brand new comp etc good shit
13. Contact information:um best way would probably be to find me on gurubashi on futoshi or jexiebr or if anyone has a beta key on the lich king realm on futoshi
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Cross Server Applicants
1. Previous Server:Gurubashi
2. Previous Guild:Notorious
-Guild Master:Nition
-2 Guild Members:Ratatosk/Rancavus
3. Why do you want to leave your server to play with us?sadly my guild has finally died and too many people have transferred off
KAYWARRIOR
09-13-2008, 09:00 AM
I'll get back to you, until then tell me what holy gear you have and how its gem'd or log in holy gear and say when its updated
futoshi
09-13-2008, 10:07 AM
should be updated with my holy gear and hopefully u saw my ret stuff i just woke up and saw i logged with my holy pvp stuff on <.<
futoshi
09-15-2008, 12:37 AM
XD dont forget about meeeee
Bubbs
09-15-2008, 02:05 AM
Why'd you choose your meta and boot enchant?
futoshi
09-15-2008, 03:00 AM
26 healing and vitality? 26 healing was from back before sunwell came out and i had a different set of gems..and if you need speed enchant on ur boots to move away from shit on bosses..just kinda lol
Katalyst
09-15-2008, 07:02 AM
26 healing and vitality? 26 healing was from back before sunwell came out and i had a different set of gems..and if you need speed enchant on ur boots to move away from shit on bosses..just kinda lol
not kinda lol. you do alot of moving and getting to where you need to be faster, ensures you can heal sooner.
ESPECIALLY being a paladin where 99% of our heals in PVE are all casted. Sorry but minor run speed trumps 6mp5 by a huge number.
KAYWARRIOR
09-15-2008, 07:37 AM
Sorry futoshi, but we're not interested, 1 pally on trial since you apped, goodluck.
futoshi
09-15-2008, 10:14 AM
maybe its just me but nobody has ever died on me because they were too far away plus the only fight that its really possible to be ranged by people in sunwell is pretty much felmyst on the air phase. every other fight can position yourself to be in range of most of the raid the entire time, maybe u just need better positioning and sorry i dont take criticism well^^
Katalyst
09-15-2008, 02:17 PM
maybe its just me but nobody has ever died on me because they were too far away plus the only fight that its really possible to be ranged by people in sunwell is pretty much felmyst on the air phase. every other fight can position yourself to be in range of most of the raid the entire time, maybe u just need better positioning and sorry i dont take criticism well^^
thats why you're still doing mu'ru attempts.
Bubbs
09-15-2008, 06:53 PM
maybe its just me but nobody has ever died on me because they were too far away plus the only fight that its really possible to be ranged by people in sunwell is pretty much felmyst on the air phase. every other fight can position yourself to be in range of most of the raid the entire time, maybe u just need better positioning and sorry i dont take criticism well^^
It's not so much about being outranged, it's mostly about the fact that 6mp5 is trivial and will more than likely never be the make or break stat on a boss. Moving to your portal on Kalecgos, outranging encapsulate and avoiding breaths on Felmyst, moving with your sentinel tank on M'uru, and all of the fucking running back and forth on KJ all benefit from run speed. Not to mention farm status shit like Mother Sharaz, Illidari Council, etc etc. Is it super likely that the extra speed will save you? No. But if it allows you to finish off the heal cast and still get where you need to be instead of cancelling and making a break for it and hoping your tank doesn't die...it seems like a better choice.
But maybe that's just m...everyone.
escariot
09-15-2008, 07:47 PM
maybe its just me but nobody has ever died on me because they were too far away plus the only fight that its really possible to be ranged by people in sunwell is pretty much felmyst on the air phase. every other fight can position yourself to be in range of most of the raid the entire time, maybe u just need better positioning and sorry i dont take criticism well^^
not being able to take criticsm well pretty much eliminates you from this guild automatically, i'd say.
futoshi
09-15-2008, 08:24 PM
thats why you're still doing mu'ru attempts.
lol i like it how you assume it was my fault we were still doing muru
not being able to take criticsm well pretty much eliminates you from this guild automatically, i'd say.
and i didnt mean it like that i can take plenty of shit its just people trying to criticize my gear and enchant choices over trivial things just because they think that their choice is the right one and everyone else should follow them. It's stupid shit like that, that I dont take well. Also the funny thing is he could have just listed something from the only fight i havent experienced(KJ) or even bullshited something up from that fight and i probably woulda believed him, but he went and chose as an example everything i have done without minor run speed just fine. I'm not trying to start shit just please dont think that im some scrub apping to you just because you are #1 US, i know what im doing and i dont want criticism like that from people that i dont even know.
sorry for the wall of text
so i dont have to post again. I chose vitality over run speed because i have never ever ever needed the extra run speed i know the fights i know the bosses i know how to avoid their attacks and keep myself in a good position nothing more than that so i figured that run speed was infact the trivial enchant because i have never needed to run that extra 8% i have experienced pretty much every fight in the game and that was my conclusion from my personal results, maybe you needed the run speed for w/e reason i dont care and i wont try and convince you that vitality is better, just please dont try and criticize me like that.
Katalyst
09-15-2008, 10:51 PM
It's not so much about being outranged, it's mostly about the fact that 6mp5 is trivial and will more than likely never be the make or break stat on a boss. Moving to your portal on Kalecgos, outranging encapsulate and avoiding breaths on Felmyst, moving with your sentinel tank on M'uru, and all of the fucking running back and forth on KJ all benefit from run speed. Not to mention farm status shit like Mother Sharaz, Illidari Council, etc etc. Is it super likely that the extra speed will save you? No. But if it allows you to finish off the heal cast and still get where you need to be instead of cancelling and making a break for it and hoping your tank doesn't die...it seems like a better choice.
But maybe that's just m...everyone.
rofl dude he still doesnt get it.
futoshi
09-15-2008, 11:29 PM
rofl dude he still doesnt get it.
rofl dude he still doesnt get it.
Bubbs
09-16-2008, 12:40 AM
lol i like it how you assume it was my fault we were still doing muru
and i didnt mean it like that i can take plenty of shit its just people trying to criticize my gear and enchant choices over trivial things just because they think that their choice is the right one and everyone else should follow them. It's stupid shit like that, that I dont take well. Also the funny thing is he could have just listed something from the only fight i havent experienced(KJ) or even bullshited something up from that fight and i probably woulda believed him, but he went and chose as an example everything i have done without minor run speed just fine. I'm not trying to start shit just please dont think that im some scrub apping to you just because you are #1 US, i know what im doing and i dont want criticism like that from people that i dont even know.
sorry for the wall of text
so i dont have to post again. I chose vitality over run speed because i have never ever ever needed the extra run speed i know the fights i know the bosses i know how to avoid their attacks and keep myself in a good position nothing more than that so i figured that run speed was infact the trivial enchant because i have never needed to run that extra 8% i have experienced pretty much every fight in the game and that was my conclusion from my personal results, maybe you needed the run speed for w/e reason i dont care and i wont try and convince you that vitality is better, just please dont try and criticize me like that.
Cause getting an extra FoL cast every 3 minutes, 45 seconds is awesome. It's not about *needing* run speed you fucking moron, it's about the benefit of the enchant ever becoming remotely useful. Run speed has that possibility, vitality does not.
please dont think that im some scrub apping to you just because you are #1 US
You are a scrub.
The only logical argument you could make would be that having 2 pair of the same boots enchanted with runspeed/vitality would be better then having one enchanted for speed, for the rare scenario where you stand still and spam heals the entire fight where having vitality would outweigh a speed increase.
Your argument suggests that the players in the guild you are apping to need speed increases because they are not as good as you.
There is not a single fight in sunwell where having a speed increase on a paladin does not vastly outweigh vitality, you are missing the point that its not about simply avoiding an encapsulate or being able to move to a burn/conflag location... its about being able to start healing faster because you were able to move to and from various positions faster. Its the same way with melee dps, why do you think the rogues in the guild use minor speed? Is it because we are bad and need that extra speed to dodge various aoe damage? Running from mob to mob and moving back into melee range faster means more dps then having say +12 agility on boots.
Also your tolerance for criticism and the way you handle it is laughable.
Dominazn
09-16-2008, 10:22 AM
hi cika mike and bubbs mike
futoshi
09-16-2008, 11:24 AM
you are trying to shit on me over an minor enchant which as you still havent seem to to gotten through your damn head, I wont need, sorry that you are too under pressure during these boss fights that are sooooooooo hard. Maybe if you took the time to actually read what I said you would know that im not a complete terribad which you may or may not be, maybe you lag or something in game I dont know. Like I said i have never needed and will continue to not need run speed in PvE because im not a baddie and i guess its too hard for you to see that, and hell if I really really wanted run speed i could spec different and not even lose a damn thing, oh wait if I do that then something else will be wrong again wouldnt it. So i am sorry your highness, if you could ever forgive me for enchanting my boots I would be forever grateful.
Koosha
09-16-2008, 11:52 AM
I don't think anyone particularly enjoys reading non-punctuated walls of text.
you are trying to shit on me over an minor enchant which as you still havent seem to to gotten through your damn head, I wont need, sorry that you are too under pressure during these boss fights that are sooooooooo hard. Maybe if you took the time to actually read what I said you would know that im not a complete terribad which you may or may not be, maybe you lag or something in game I dont know. Like I said i have never needed and will continue to not need run speed in PvE because im not a baddie and i guess its too hard for you to see that, and hell if I really really wanted run speed i could spec different and not even lose a damn thing, oh wait if I do that then something else will be wrong again wouldnt it. So i am sorry your highness, if you could ever forgive me for enchanting my boots I would be forever grateful.
You are a fucking idiot, and I am also pretty sure you have down syndrome. It literally isn't even worth arguing with you because you obviously can't grasp simple concepts, your refusing self improvement because you believe you are good enough to not need it.. when its a fucking linear upgrade for any paladin in the game regardless of skill. Skill doesn't make your character run faster you fucking dumbass, no one here is talking about needing the speed to compensate for slow reaction times, and everyone (except for autism children.. you.) is talking about getting extra heals off because you can get from point A to point B faster.
LETS DRAW A DIAGRAM FOR YOU.
You with vitality moving from stack position(A) to burn position(B) on brutallus
A(stop healing)---------->B(you start healing)
Bubbs with minor speed.
A(stop healing)------->B(he starts healing)
HE GETS MORE HEALS OFF YOU FUCKING DUMBASS.
stop posting here, and please kill yourself.
olaf4uduh
09-16-2008, 01:30 PM
CIKA HAS SPOKEN
THE TRIBUNAL IS OVER
chiapet
09-16-2008, 03:20 PM
damn this is a fun read.
futoshi
09-16-2008, 04:03 PM
Ok let me dumb it down for you since you obviously don't seem to get it. You are putting me in your shoes in your guilds strategies, your guilds playstyle, etc. Then you are criticizing me over an enchant that I never needed in my guild, why, because not everyone in the world tries to copy you guys or wherever you get your strats from. You think you are all high and mighty because you are #1 US guild and I think it has gone to your head so much that you just assume that you are always right. You can't come to the conclusion that all the guilds in the world are different and do things different ways. Plus since i know you will probably come back to the point you made about my guild still being on M'uru after reading this. We were stuck on him because people wouldn't log on. Just like you we only had to raid 1-2 nights a week and a lot of people got used to that changed their schedules etc. So when it came time for hardcore raiding again trying to learn all the new bosses less and less people started showing up because it was taking too much of their time.
So when it comes down to it just don't assume i'm the baddie cause your 8% run speed is apparently godlike for every strat you use. If you would like to know what strat we used that I didn't need that run speed for I'd be glad to tell you but i don't even think you care that much to ask. Plus the funny thing is you try and shit on me because i had vitality in my old guild and what looks like you think I wouldn't change that enchant if i got into exodus which I probably would if I had to move as much as you do apparently.
The only thing I want to know is why you are so hostile. I never did anything to you. You came into this thread trying to shit on me for having vitality and I simply responded. Even though some things I said later on weren't exactly friendly, I'm not just going to stand by while someone tries to justify how I'm bad for using vitality in my old guild. So please just calm down, I don't mind if people ask me questions about my gear and enchant choices, but I will if you go crazy and call me bad over something so trivial.
As the great Printzor-sama would say "Focus your hate and unleash it on your enemies". Go do a bg or something lol.
"Never needed it in my guild"
Did you forget the part where it is a linear upgrade regardless of player skill or guild strategy?
We are "shitting" on you because if you cannot understand how and why to gear your character why the fuck would we recruit you.
futoshi
09-16-2008, 04:44 PM
"Never needed it in my guild"
Did you forget the part where it is a linear upgrade regardless of player skill or guild strategy?
We are "shitting" on you because if you cannot understand how and why to gear your character why the fuck would we recruit you.
You are shitting on me because you have nothing better to do, hell I'm trying to defend myself because I have nothing better to do and I'm pretty sure kay already said you were full on paladins and um yea? Sorry for enchanting my boots with vitality because it obviously offended you. See you later man, maybe in the future if you don't have such a one-track mind we can be friends.
You are shitting on me because you have nothing better to do, hell I'm trying to defend myself because I have nothing better to do and I'm pretty sure kay already said you were full on paladins and um yea? Sorry for enchanting my boots with vitality because it obviously offended you. See you later man, maybe in the future if you don't have such a one-track mind we can be friends.
Im not friends with bads.
Koosha
09-16-2008, 04:59 PM
[oTm] BABY
Angio
09-16-2008, 05:06 PM
Cant see the extra percent helping....guess you cant see KJ die either, you're amazing.
Wont lie, stopped into this thread to see the ass, not an ass but THE ass in all it's glory....hole.
chiapet
09-16-2008, 05:10 PM
pretty sure move speed is better in all situations that you have to MOVE
Katalyst
09-16-2008, 05:25 PM
you guys should chill; this guy obviously knows something 99% of the paladin community doesn't. O_o
KAYWARRIOR
09-16-2008, 05:46 PM
I'm not usually mean to players I don't know, but you are fucking retarded, I'm glad I had the easy choice to not pick you up.
Bubbs
09-16-2008, 05:49 PM
Ok let me dumb it down for you since you obviously don't seem to get it. You are putting me in your shoes in your guilds strategies, your guilds playstyle, etc. Then you are criticizing me over an enchant that I never needed in my guild, why, because not everyone in the world tries to copy you guys or wherever you get your strats from. You think you are all high and mighty because you are #1 US guild and I think it has gone to your head so much that you just assume that you are always right. You can't come to the conclusion that all the guilds in the world are different and do things different ways. Plus since i know you will probably come back to the point you made about my guild still being on M'uru after reading this. We were stuck on him because people wouldn't log on. Just like you we only had to raid 1-2 nights a week and a lot of people got used to that changed their schedules etc. So when it came time for hardcore raiding again trying to learn all the new bosses less and less people started showing up because it was taking too much of their time.
So when it comes down to it just don't assume i'm the baddie cause your 8% run speed is apparently godlike for every strat you use. If you would like to know what strat we used that I didn't need that run speed for I'd be glad to tell you but i don't even think you care that much to ask. Plus the funny thing is you try and shit on me because i had vitality in my old guild and what looks like you think I wouldn't change that enchant if i got into exodus which I probably would if I had to move as much as you do apparently.
The only thing I want to know is why you are so hostile. I never did anything to you. You came into this thread trying to shit on me for having vitality and I simply responded. Even though some things I said later on weren't exactly friendly, I'm not just going to stand by while someone tries to justify how I'm bad for using vitality in my old guild. So please just calm down, I don't mind if people ask me questions about my gear and enchant choices, but I will if you go crazy and call me bad over something so trivial.
As the great Printzor-sama would say "Focus your hate and unleash it on your enemies". Go do a bg or something lol.
Thanks for dumbing it down for me. Your insights as a Paladin healer who is working on content that I helped contribute to the 2nd world kill on will greatly assist me in my future endeavors. You have performed a great service on this day, the sixteenth of September. Now go continue being guildless.
Bubbs
09-16-2008, 05:50 PM
I'm not usually mean to players I don't know, but you are fucking retarded, I'm glad I had the easy choice to not pick you up.
It's true. He's only mean to players he does know.
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